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Paul Gibbs Message #115392, posted by Hokum at 13:48, 16/9/2010, in reply to message #115391
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I was browsing the forum and it seems there isn't a compiler for obj-C for RISCOS...
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Trevor Johnson Message #115393, posted by trevj at 14:29, 16/9/2010, in reply to message #115392
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...it seems there isn't a compiler for obj-C for RISCOS...
It looks like you're right, although a version was available over 10 years ago.
Additionally, there's the matter of OpenGL.
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Jason Togneri Message #115394, posted by filecore at 14:48, 16/9/2010, in reply to message #115393

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You're really into this whole business of hyperlinking everything you write, aren't you?
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Trevor Johnson Message #115395, posted by trevj at 15:22, 16/9/2010, in reply to message #115394
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You're really into this whole business of hyperlinking everything you write, aren't you?
Fair comment blush (Although I thought the whole point of hypertext was to be able to include relevant links which can be followed if the user so chooses!)

Anyway (and after some considerable effort, I must admit) I've managed to track down a post of mine which doesn't contain a hyperlink - grin Click Here! grin
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Jason Togneri Message #115396, posted by filecore at 16:58, 16/9/2010, in reply to message #115395

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Anyway (and after some considerable effort, I must admit) I've managed to track down a post of mine which doesn't contain a hyperlink
You needn't have gone to such bother; you posted one just a few posts back in this very thread!
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Trevor Johnson Message #115397, posted by trevj at 18:30, 16/9/2010, in reply to message #115396
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Thank you.
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Ken Taylor Message #116475, posted by elecdrum at 17:01, 7/2/2011, in reply to message #115391
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Just downloaded the Elite cheats zip, I was just after passhack as I'm using an old version.
But passhack has disappeared from the contents of the zip.
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Blind Moose Message #116476, posted by Acornut at 17:16, 7/2/2011, in reply to message #116475
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...passhack...
Wasn't that by the B52's ?
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Jason Togneri Message #116477, posted by filecore at 17:42, 7/2/2011, in reply to message #116475

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Just downloaded the Elite cheats zip, I was just after passhack as I'm using an old version.
But passhack has disappeared from the contents of the zip.
Why not just download the totally free unprotected version from this very site, also updated to work with all machines right up to StrongARM RiscPCs?

Doesn't matter if you want to use your original - I have four boxed copies on my shelf right now, but it's a hassle to go digging through the manual each time. And if you're wanting PassHack, then obviously you're not much bothered by using the original with its password protection in any case. Just grab that copy linked above and you'll be on your way.
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Ken Taylor Message #116495, posted by elecdrum at 11:16, 8/2/2011, in reply to message #116477
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Agreed, but right now I can't get the updated version to run on my nice new A3010. Keeps complaining about not being able to find 'elite.$.elite.!Run'. I'm quite new to Riscos so not sure what the problem is.
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Jason Togneri Message #116497, posted by filecore at 13:06, 8/2/2011, in reply to message #116495

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Most "applications" in RISC OS are actually directories. Rather than a folder full of files, adding the pling (exclamation mark) will make the folder act like an executable, running when double-clicked.

What your error is telling you is that !Run (a BASIC file) inside the 'elite' folder, mounted on drive 'elite', cannot be found. This is incorrect. Are you trying to run Elite from a non-standard location, such as from inside an archive? If you extract it to (for example) the root of your hard drive, the path should look something like this:

ADFS::HardDisc4.$.Elite.!Elite.!Run

Where:

ADFS is the filesystem (IDEFS, SCSIFS, CDFS, etc)
:: is the filesystem/drivename seperator
HardDisc4 is the name of our hard drive
. is a directory level seperator, like / in Windows
Elite is a directory
!Elite is the program directory
!Run is the executable file within the !Elite program directory

You can access the inside of these directories (prefixed with a !) by double-clicking on it while holding the Shift key; double-clicking normally will simply run the program (or attempt to).

EDIT: if you don't have a working hard drive or anywhere else to extract the program to, you can create a RAM disc (a virtual hard drive using some of your RAM). Click on the acorn (or 4) symbol in the far right of the icon bar, to open the Tasks window. Any green and red bars show memory use. Green bars are system-allocated (fixed) and red bars are user-allocated (dynamic) amounts of memory. You can grab any red bar and move your mouse to change the amount of memory allocated.

Scroll down until you find "RAM disc" which will have 0k and no red bar, because it is inactive right now. Simply click on the blank space where its bar would be, and the bar should appear. Resize to suit, allowing for storage size needed on the RAM disc. An icon for it should appear on the task bar, as a new hard drive called "RAM". You can now use this to extract to. However, do remember that it is in a volatile memory space, meaning that it is not permanent or fixed; it will last until you remove it via Tasks, or until you reboot the computer (when RAM is cleared).

[Edited by filecore at 13:14, 8/2/2011]
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Ken Taylor Message #116498, posted by elecdrum at 13:19, 8/2/2011, in reply to message #116497
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This is from my riscpc machine and runs fine there, I'll get the zip again and try it direct to the floppy, hopefully that will sort it if it's a pathing problem.
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Jason Togneri Message #116499, posted by filecore at 13:51, 8/2/2011, in reply to message #116498

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You still didn't say if you have a hard drive on the A3010, or where you're trying to run Elite from.
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Jason Togneri Message #116500, posted by filecore at 13:52, 8/2/2011, in reply to message #116499

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elite.$.elite.!Run
Is there anything before the first 'elite', such as "ARCFS::Elite.$.elite.!Run"?

Edit: can we please not make :E a smiley? Even unticking the "Smileys" box doesn't work; at least, not from Edit mode.

[Edited by filecore at 13:53, 8/2/2011]
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Blind Moose Message #116501, posted by Acornut at 14:50, 8/2/2011, in reply to message #116500
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:Elite
Hmmmm! I think that's what the Preview message button is for.
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Ken Taylor Message #116502, posted by elecdrum at 15:04, 8/2/2011, in reply to message #116501
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There is no hard drive in the 3010 as yet so i'm unzipping to a floppy on my Riscpc and trying that.
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Ken Taylor Message #116503, posted by elecdrum at 15:28, 8/2/2011, in reply to message #116502
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Got it to run. On my riscpc the folder is called Elite. and the program runs fine in 4.39.
Unzipped to a floppy it creates a folder of the same name but the error mentions a directory with an accented lower case e as its name I changed this and now it runs. Is 3.1 at bit more picky then?
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Jason Togneri Message #116504, posted by filecore at 16:17, 8/2/2011, in reply to message #116503

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grinlite
Hmmmm! I think that's what the Preview message button is for.
Preview button? Meh. That's what the edit function is for?

Got it to run. On my riscpc the folder is called Elite. and the program runs fine in 4.39.
Unzipped to a floppy it creates a folder of the same name but the error mentions a directory with an accented lower case e as its name I changed this and now it runs. Is 3.1 at bit more picky then?
Dunno, both versions should treat e and é differently. Admittedly, its official name is Élite and if I recall correctly, my own copy is spelled with an accent. Either way, it should deal with the path it sees which should be correct for the folder it is in. How strange. Anyway, glad you got it working - that's the main thing! And you learned a few techniques in the process big smile
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VinceH Message #116516, posted by VincceH at 23:31, 8/2/2011, in reply to message #115394
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What's so wrong with that?
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Jason Togneri Message #116517, posted by filecore at 07:49, 9/2/2011, in reply to message #116516

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Somebody had a lot of time on their hands this morning...

EDIT: yes yes, last night, whatever.

[Edited by filecore at 07:50, 9/2/2011]
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qUE Message #116518, posted by qUE at 09:32, 9/2/2011, in reply to message #116516
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This could be a lot worse, the forum could be converting words to hyperlinks for you with advertising, also known as "In-text placement" advertising.
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Jeffrey Lee Message #116519, posted by Phlamethrower at 10:01, 9/2/2011, in reply to message #116503
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Got it to run. On my riscpc the folder is called Elite. and the program runs fine in 4.39.
Unzipped to a floppy it creates a folder of the same name but the error mentions a directory with an accented lower case e as its name I changed this and now it runs. Is 3.1 at bit more picky then?
3.1 should work with accented characters in filenames. Is it possible you're using a DOS formatted floppy? I wouldn't be surprised if that was the causing the error.
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VinceH Message #116520, posted by VincceH at 10:25, 9/2/2011, in reply to message #116517
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Somebody had a lot of time on their hands this morning...
Actually, it did't take very long with judicious use of copy and paste. For each of the letters I just pasted the same link in each time and changed the leafname to match the letter.

It was a long time between starting and finishing, though, because I started the reply elsewhere and then chose to come home before finishing.

EDIT: yes yes, last night, whatever.
tongue
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Trevor Johnson Message #116522, posted by trevj at 11:46, 9/2/2011, in reply to message #116518
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"In-text placement" advertising.
You mean you don't "appreciate the improved experience"?
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