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Acorn Arcade forums: Games: Hot piss! (almost) all id games on Steam!
 
  Hot piss! (almost) all id games on Steam!
  rich (17:48 10/8/2007)
  Phlamethrower (18:02 10/8/2007)
    rich (18:15 10/8/2007)
      rich (18:19 10/8/2007)
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Richard Goodwin Message #103837, posted by rich at 17:48, 10/8/2007
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http://storefront.steampowered.com/v/index.php?publisher=id

[Edited by Phlamethrower at 19:47, 10/8/2007. Removed 's' attrib from URL so rich doesn't have to worry about us stealing his soul]
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Jeffrey Lee Message #103838, posted by Phlamethrower at 18:02, 10/8/2007, in reply to message #103837
PhlamethrowerHot Hot Hot Hot Hot Hot Hot Hot Hot Hot Hot Hot Hot stuff

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*penis explosion*

Now I can actually buy quake 2. And quake 3. And quake 4. Etc.

Also, any reason this is in the staff forum instead of games? tongue

[Edited by Phlamethrower at 18:03, 10/8/2007]
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Richard Goodwin Message #103839, posted by rich at 18:15, 10/8/2007, in reply to message #103838
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Because that URL was taken directly out of the Steam client, and I didn't know if it'd work/allow others to steal my games.

Plus, no Quake IV. The "everything Quake" pack only goes up to extensions of Quake III. You can get Commander Keen though (requirements - Minimum: A 100% Windows 2000/XP/Vista-compatible computer system)
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Richard Goodwin Message #103840, posted by rich at 18:19, 10/8/2007, in reply to message #103839
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Hmmm... Devil May Cry 3 Special Edition. They've got id, THQ, Eidos, Ubisoft, Capcom... Quite the games distribution hub, although I guess they're games that have been out a while. So for the publishers, it's a way of shifting more games that have already left the shops, for the gamers it's a way of picking up stuff they might have missed at a bargain price ($19.95 =~ £10), and the shops aren't pissed because it's not direct competition. Yet.
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Jeffrey Lee Message #103841, posted by Phlamethrower at 18:22, 10/8/2007, in reply to message #103839
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Plus, no Quake IV. The "everything Quake" pack only goes up to extensions of Quake III. You can get Commander Keen though (requirements - Minimum: A 100% Windows 2000/XP/Vista-compatible computer system)
Well, Quake 2 was the only one I was really interested in, since I don't play enough multiplayer to want quake 3 (and if I do play multiplayer, HL2/etc. satisfies my urges), and quake 4 is likely crap.
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Jeffrey Lee Message #103842, posted by Phlamethrower at 18:25, 10/8/2007, in reply to message #103840
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Hmmm... Devil May Cry 3 Special Edition. They've got id, THQ, Eidos, Ubisoft, Capcom... Quite the games distribution hub, although I guess they're games that have been out a while. So for the publishers, it's a way of shifting more games that have already left the shops, for the gamers it's a way of picking up stuff they might have missed at a bargain price ($19.95 =~ £10), and the shops aren't pissed because it's not direct competition. Yet.
Plus older games are smaller, so they don't use so much bandwidth when people download them.
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Richard Goodwin Message #103843, posted by rich at 18:33, 10/8/2007, in reply to message #103842
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I don't think the "older games are smaller" bit comes into it - Company of Heroes is only one year old (i.e. old enough to be out of shops, but new enough to tax my ninja games machine slightly). And it's plenty big enough, as I've learnt during my multiple downloads to try and get it working after the last upgrade.

(After I'd buggered around with my machine - adding a new hard drive, copying games on to new drive, removing old drive, moving games onto new partition, installing second graphics card to handle TV out as well as second monitor, re-installed graphics drivers twice - the game starts working. Weird!)
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Jeffrey Lee Message #103844, posted by Phlamethrower at 18:37, 10/8/2007, in reply to message #103843
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I don't think the "older games are smaller" bit comes into it - Company of Heroes is only one year old (i.e. old enough to be out of shops, but new enough to tax my ninja games machine slightly). And it's plenty big enough, as I've learnt during my multiple downloads to try and get it working after the last upgrade.
Older = Quake 2 = 1 CD. That kind of old is what I'm talking about, none of this new-fangled DVD malarky.
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Richard Goodwin Message #103845, posted by rich at 18:40, 10/8/2007, in reply to message #103844
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Well sure, some of the games are older, because it's the entire back catalogue; but I don't think download size has anything to do with it. Most games on Steam are DVD-era. Doom III is.
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Phil Mellor Message #103848, posted by monkeyson2 at 19:29, 10/8/2007, in reply to message #103845
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And this is in the staff forum why...?
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Jeffrey Lee Message #103850, posted by Phlamethrower at 19:34, 10/8/2007, in reply to message #103848
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Because rich thinks we will somehow steal his steam account tongue
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Jeffrey Lee Message #103852, posted by Phlamethrower at 19:39, 10/8/2007, in reply to message #103841
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Plus, no Quake IV. The "everything Quake" pack only goes up to extensions of Quake III. You can get Commander Keen though (requirements - Minimum: A 100% Windows 2000/XP/Vista-compatible computer system)
Well, Quake 2 was the only one I was really interested in,
Out of the Quakes, that is. I've just looked again, and remembered Heretic/Hexen/Wolfensteins/etc. And, there's the cost of the "all id Games" pack:

Individual price $213.90
Package price $69.95
You save $143.95!
*secondary penis explosion*

The fact that I only own Quake 1, Wolf 3D, and Doom 1/2/3 has now paid off tongue

Of course, I will need to secure myself a new hard disc before starting to download it all.
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19:48, 10/8/2007 - At this point the thread was moved from Staff only to Games by Phlamethrower
 
 
Jeffrey Lee Message #103854, posted by Phlamethrower at 19:51, 10/8/2007, in reply to message #103852
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*bump to fix recent discussions*
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Andrew Poole Message #103855, posted by andypoole at 20:30, 10/8/2007, in reply to message #103854
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smile

Last night I played Quake for the first time shock

I can't get Return to Castle Wolfenstein to run, though unhappy

(I also couldn't get Doom3 to run, but if you run Resurrection of Evil first, it fixes it so you can run Doom3)

Andy. More FPS than you can shake a stick at.

PS, it was $62 when I bought it last night. I think the introductory-offer-doodah must have run out tongue

[Edited by andypoole at 20:33, 10/8/2007]
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Jeffrey Lee Message #103856, posted by Phlamethrower at 20:36, 10/8/2007, in reply to message #103855
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PS, it was $62 when I bought it last night. I think the introductory-offer-doodah must have run out tongue

[Edited by andypoole at 20:33, 10/8/2007]
Yes. I just started Steam and it said there was a 10% off offer until the 10th unhappy

*shakes fist at Rich [edit #2: and slaps poolie for not mentioning this yesterday]*

[edit]

Bah, $12 tax. *but* if I uninstall Doom 3 first, I have enough space to fit all the games. Yay!

[Edited by Phlamethrower at 20:41, 10/8/2007]

[Edited by Phlamethrower at 20:44, 10/8/2007]
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Jeffrey Lee Message #103857, posted by Phlamethrower at 21:00, 10/8/2007, in reply to message #103856
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Bah #2: It doesn't look like they provided MP3s (or similar) of any of the music for the games that used CD music unhappy (Although I've only looked at Quake so far, since that's the only one that's finished downloading)
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Andrew Poole Message #103858, posted by andypoole at 21:51, 10/8/2007, in reply to message #103857
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Bah #2: It doesn't look like they provided MP3s (or similar) of any of the music for the games that used CD music unhappy (Although I've only looked at Quake so far, since that's the only one that's finished downloading)
That's one of the things I noted. No music in games that used CD unhappy
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Richard Goodwin Message #103868, posted by rich at 00:38, 11/8/2007, in reply to message #103850
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Because rich thinks we will somehow steal his steam account tongue
It was more to do with not knowing if posting a URL direct from the Steam client would actually work for anyone not already logged in, so you were my guinea pigs.
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Jeffrey Lee Message #103870, posted by Phlamethrower at 09:10, 11/8/2007, in reply to message #103839
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You can get Commander Keen though (requirements - Minimum: A 100% Windows 2000/XP/Vista-compatible computer system)
Yeah, it looks like they're using DOSBox for all the old games. People have done this before (Sierra IIRC).

I can't get Return to Castle Wolfenstein to run, though unhappy
Likewise unhappy

(and same problem with Doom 3, although that's understandable since it's the expansion pack CD key that it wants, which presumably isn't downloaded to your system until you try running the expansion pack)

Everything else seems to work, though smile

*hits the forums to look for any fixes*
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Jeffrey Lee Message #103871, posted by Phlamethrower at 09:25, 11/8/2007, in reply to message #103870
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RTCW is working. Yay!

I'm not sure why it's working, but:

1. Added 'seta r_fullscreen 0' to autoexec.cfg, as suggested here for resolution issues.
2. Tried running, failed (but it did start in a window)
3. Decided to try getting a log of the console output, so went hunting through the Quake 1 docs (under the probably false assumption that the command would be the same)
4. Subsequently added '-condebug' to the startup options
5. Game works!
6. Changed video options to be sensible, removed r_fullscreen from autoexec.cfg, removed -condebug
7. Game still works!

So, that might fix it for you. Or maybe not.

Also be warned that the Steam version of RTCW isn't fully patched, so you may have to wait a while for Valve to update it before playing online (and there are allegedly some issues with widescreen monitors).
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Andrew Poole Message #103873, posted by andypoole at 10:17, 11/8/2007, in reply to message #103870
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(and same problem with Doom 3, although that's understandable since it's the expansion pack CD key that it wants, which presumably isn't downloaded to your system until you try running the expansion pack)
Run the expansion game first, then Doom3 will run.

RTCW is working. Yay!

I'm not sure why it's working, but:

1. Added 'seta r_fullscreen 0' to autoexec.cfg, as suggested here for resolution issues.
2. Tried running, failed (but it did start in a window)
3. Decided to try getting a log of the console output, so went hunting through the Quake 1 docs (under the probably false assumption that the command would be the same)
4. Subsequently added '-condebug' to the startup options
5. Game works!
6. Changed video options to be sensible, removed r_fullscreen from autoexec.cfg, removed -condebug
7. Game still works!

So, that might fix it for you. Or maybe not.
I'll give this a try later smile
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Andrew Poole Message #103876, posted by andypoole at 12:53, 11/8/2007, in reply to message #103873
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4. Subsequently added '-condebug' to the startup options
5. Game works!
This works.
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Jeffrey Lee Message #103902, posted by Phlamethrower at 10:52, 12/8/2007, in reply to message #103876
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The version of GLQuake they've given seems a bit dodgy. It crashes if I try using a resolution above 640x480 unhappy (And for some strange reason, selecting 640x480 actually results in 656x496, with black borders at the edge of the screen. But I've discovered that it's like that with my other copies of Quake as well, so it's presumably some driver issue)

But the good news is that I found the Nightmare skill path for the first Quake mission pack without any problems smile (And then died on the first level tongue)

Also, when using GLQuake, "gl_flashblend 0" is your friend. Otherwise you get horrible ugly blotches instead of lightmap lights for explosions/muzzle flashes/etc. (it defaults to 1 because the bandwidth needed to keep the lightmaps up to date was too much for early 3D cards. But I'm not sure why they haven't changed the default setting for this release.)
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Phil Mellor Message #103903, posted by monkeyson2 at 11:48, 12/8/2007, in reply to message #103902
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Gerph, on the quality of the ports:

http://www.gerph.org/diary/index.html#5_Aug_2007
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