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Phil Mellor |
Message #56401, posted by monkeyson2 at 08:11, 30/6/2004 |
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Is it just me or has the CSS for this site disappeared? It all looks very Times New Roman and the links are underlined. |
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Richard Goodwin |
Message #56402, posted by rich at 08:57, 30/6/2004, in reply to message #56401 |
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Is it just me or has the CSS for this site disappeared? It all looks very Times New Roman and the links are underlined. Looks like someone modified it yesterday (29th)
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Andrew Duffell |
Message #56403, posted by ad at 08:59, 30/6/2004, in reply to message #56402 |
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Is it just me or has the CSS for this site disappeared? It all looks very Times New Roman and the links are underlined. Looks like someone modified it yesterday (29th)
Last time i try messing with CSS  It just seems to have borked it all up. I was trying to make it so that there were not two seperate CSS files depending on whether you had 'win' in the useragent.
Rich seems to have beaten me to sorting it though. 
[Edited by Kinetic at 10:01, 30/6/2004] |
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Richard Goodwin |
Message #56404, posted by rich at 09:03, 30/6/2004, in reply to message #56403 |
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I've just re-uploaded the old files from my hard drive. Looks like someone didn't do proper backups before messing with the live server
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Andrew Duffell |
Message #56406, posted by ad at 09:10, 30/6/2004, in reply to message #56404 |
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I've just re-uploaded the old files from my hard drive. Looks like someone didn't do proper backups before messing with the live server I've worked out what went wrong: There are two directorys which contain header.inc.php and I edited the wrong one, so the CSS was not being included. |
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Richard Goodwin |
Message #56414, posted by rich at 10:30, 30/6/2004, in reply to message #56406 |
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I've worked out what went wrong: There are two directorys which contain header.inc.php and I edited the wrong one, so the CSS was not being included. If you want to try again, maybe use a different file name so you can switch back quickly.
Does your CSS take into account Mac DPI brokeness?
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Andrew Duffell |
Message #56417, posted by ad at 11:58, 30/6/2004, in reply to message #56414 |
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I've worked out what went wrong: There are two directorys which contain header.inc.php and I edited the wrong one, so the CSS was not being included.
If you want to try again, maybe use a different file name so you can switch back quickly.
Does your CSS take into account Mac DPI brokeness?
What is broken about DPI on Macs? |
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Richard Goodwin |
Message #56419, posted by rich at 14:25, 30/6/2004, in reply to message #56417 |
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What is broken about DPI on Macs? That would be a no, then? 
IIRC, RISCOS/Windows/Linux/Man+Dog use around 96 dpi; Macs use 72 dpi. So, everything you do on Macs gives much smaller text. Unless, of course, it doesn't, because *some* browsers take the DPI into account. Just not all of them.
See the problem?
Not sure if that was why Tim did two stylesheets or not, but it sounds reasonable.
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Andrew Duffell |
Message #56420, posted by ad at 15:45, 30/6/2004, in reply to message #56419 |
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What is broken about DPI on Macs? That would be a no, then?
IIRC, RISCOS/Windows/Linux/Man+Dog use around 96 dpi; Macs use 72 dpi. So, everything you do on Macs gives much smaller text. Unless, of course, it doesn't, because *some* browsers take the DPI into account. Just not all of them.
See the problem?
Not sure if that was why Tim did two stylesheets or not, but it sounds reasonable.
Can't have been why. The stylesheets where for one for Windows, and one for everything else. |
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Tim Fountain |
Message #56421, posted by alpha at 15:58, 30/6/2004, in reply to message #56420 |
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The reason for the two stylesheets was just fonts - Windows users (e.g. me) get Verdana, which is stupidly large at the default font size, so I always reduce it to 80%. Users who don't get Verdana (i.e. RISC OS users) would therefore end up with really small text. |
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Andrew Duffell |
Message #56424, posted by ad at 16:10, 30/6/2004, in reply to message #56421 |
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The reason for the two stylesheets was just fonts - Windows users (e.g. me) get Verdana, which is stupidly large at the default font size, so I always reduce it to 80%. Users who don't get Verdana (i.e. RISC OS users) would therefore end up with really small text. Although we do get Verdana with the newer browsers. |
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Matthew Somerville |
Message #56453, posted by Matthew at 22:44, 1/7/2004, in reply to message #56421 |
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The reason for the two stylesheets was just fonts - Windows users (e.g. me) get Verdana, which is stupidly large at the default font size, so I always reduce it to 80%. Users who don't get Verdana (i.e. RISC OS users) would therefore end up with really small text. But how do you know what my default font size is? I've set it up to be right for me, I don't appreciate sites saying "You should view this site at 80% what you want". In IE (not that I use that any more, and neither should anyone else with its current security issues), I have it set to smaller font size - Icon Bar looks too small with this. |
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Andrew Duffell |
Message #56457, posted by ad at 06:48, 2/7/2004, in reply to message #56453 |
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The reason for the two stylesheets was just fonts - Windows users (e.g. me) get Verdana, which is stupidly large at the default font size, so I always reduce it to 80%. Users who don't get Verdana (i.e. RISC OS users) would therefore end up with really small text. But how do you know what my default font size is? I've set it up to be right for me, I don't appreciate sites saying "You should view this site at 80% what you want". In IE (not that I use that any more, and neither should anyone else with its current security issues), I have it set to smaller font size - Icon Bar looks too small with this.
Well personally I agree with you there. |
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Andrew Sidwell |
Message #56731, posted by takkaria at 10:07, 7/7/2004, in reply to message #56404 |
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I've just re-uploaded the old files from my hard drive. Looks like someone didn't do proper backups before messing with the live server You'll need to make the change from a:hover to a:link:hover in stylesheet again then as previously discussed. |
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John Hoare |
Message #56758, posted by moss at 19:02, 7/7/2004, in reply to message #56453 |
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The reason for the two stylesheets was just fonts - Windows users (e.g. me) get Verdana, which is stupidly large at the default font size, so I always reduce it to 80%. Users who don't get Verdana (i.e. RISC OS users) would therefore end up with really small text. But how do you know what my default font size is? I've set it up to be right for me, I don't appreciate sites saying "You should view this site at 80% what you want". In IE (not that I use that any more, and neither should anyone else with its current security issues), I have it set to smaller font size - Icon Bar looks too small with this.
This is very true.
However, it's one one vice I allow myself on G&T - I just know that if I keep the font size at 100%, loads of people will complain it looks ugly... |
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Richard Goodwin |
Message #56775, posted by rich at 08:29, 8/7/2004, in reply to message #56758 |
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Plus, most browsers that support CSS also have font resizing (CTRL plus or minus, in Mozilla), and you can even use mutliple style sheets.
Go to http://www.houseofmabel.com/test.html in Mozilla, and using the View-Use Style option, switch between the default and simple styles.
So, design the site how you want - it is your site, after all - and then when someone complains, call them c***s and point them to the various options to change the font style that they obviously are too stupid to find 
Doesn't help with RISC OS browsers, but then, CSS font handling is a bit of a foreign concept there anyway.
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John Hoare |
Message #56789, posted by moss at 16:15, 8/7/2004, in reply to message #56775 |
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I was going to do some alternate style sheets for G&T - but I'm annoyed that you actually have to write your own code to get the stylesheet to be consistent throughout the site. Otherwise, it just loses the alternate you've selected when you browse away from the current page to another bit of the site 
Something browsers should be dealing with, IMO. |
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Andrew Sidwell |
Message #57165, posted by takkaria at 22:23, 19/7/2004, in reply to message #56731 |
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You'll need to make the change from a:hover to a:link:hover in the stylesheet again then as previously discussed. *looks around innocently* Is anyone listening?
[Edited by takkaria at 23:24, 19/7/2004] |
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Message #57225, posted by [mentat] at 07:46, 21/7/2004, in reply to message #57165 |
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Richard Goodwin |
Message #57229, posted by rich at 09:37, 21/7/2004, in reply to message #57225 |
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I am, but I don't want to change anything until Tim does the upgrade.
For instance, the logo alt text is only on the forums, using the templates, which are going to change RSN.
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