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Quake 2 Source Release |
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davidm (14:45 22/12/2001)
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Phlamethrower (17:34 28/12/2001)
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David McEwen |
Message #84272, posted by davidm at 14:45, 22/12/2001 |
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As most of you probably don't frequent the same sites as me you may have missed this :
http://www.linuxgames.com/news/index.php3/5257
Anyone up for a RISC OS port ? 
Should be a useful reference for anyone working on a game engine.
...David |
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Lee Johnston |
Message #84273, posted by johnstlr at 15:43, 23/12/2001, in reply to message #84272 |
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I was wondering how long it would be before someone noticed this.Anyone up for a RISC OS port ? That really is a joke, hence the smiley, right? |
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David McEwen |
Message #84274, posted by davidm at 18:26, 27/12/2001, in reply to message #84273 |
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Of course it was a joke! |
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #84275, posted by Phlamethrower at 17:34, 28/12/2001, in reply to message #84274 |
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Well if we had some OpenGL drivers for the Viewfinder card... |
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Lee Johnston |
Message #84276, posted by johnstlr at 15:54, 29/12/2001, in reply to message #84275 |
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David - I thought so but I'm half paranoid of someone coming along and proclaiming that they're doing it and it's possible (right). Jeff - perhaps you'd stand half a chance with the new cards recently announced (see www.iconbar.com) but I suspect with the standard model be bottlenecked when shifting textures across the bus. |
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David McEwen |
Message #84277, posted by davidm at 17:50, 29/12/2001, in reply to message #84276 |
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Yeah Lee people always come along claiming they are doing x, y & z... and it never happens. So far nothing about Q2 though. Although it is being ported to the PocketPC platform by Dan East : bttp://quake.pocketmatrix.com Supposedly it runs at around 4.9fps at the start on his iPaq, which has a 200Mhz SA... although it has a faster bus. It's a hell of a lot easier porting to PocketPC than RISC OS though... |
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Andrew |
Message #84278, posted by andreww at 19:09, 6/1/2002, in reply to message #84277 |
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Of course it was a joke! Yes, you're scaling down I hear! |
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David McEwen |
Message #84279, posted by davidm at 23:14, 6/1/2002, in reply to message #84278 |
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Yes, you're scaling down I hear! Indeed! I should be down to only a couple of RISC OS projects in the near future... |
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Andrew |
Message #84280, posted by andreww at 13:06, 7/1/2002, in reply to message #84279 |
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<blockquote><font color="#667799">Yes, you're scaling down I hear!</blockquote></font>Indeed! I should be down to only a couple of RISC OS projects in the near future... Only 2 sounds good to me :-) |
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David McEwen |
Message #84281, posted by davidm at 23:08, 9/1/2002, in reply to message #84280 |
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Only 2 sounds good to me :-) Yeah... but 2 instead of 20 odd is quite a significant scale down! |
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Andrew Briggs |
Message #84282, posted by Cardinal at 01:41, 2/2/2002, in reply to message #84281 |
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I think I'd prefer a port of the Unreal Tournament engine. I played some of Quake II again today and I was bored out of my mind after 5 minutes, it is so dull compared to the standard of the fps genre today. If the ut engine was ported then the RiscOS platform would have a great multiplayer game in the form of ut, and brilliant single player in the form of DeusEx. |
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David McEwen |
Message #84283, posted by davidm at 13:50, 3/2/2002, in reply to message #84282 |
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I think I'd prefer a port of the Unreal Tournament engine. I played some of Quake II again today and I was bored out of my mind after 5 minutes, it is so dull compared to the standard of the fps genre today. If the ut engine was ported then the RiscOS platform would have a great multiplayer game in the form of ut, and brilliant single player in the form of DeusEx. There are several problems with this : a) The Unreal Tournament source isn't available
b) The UT engine requires even more power than Q2, which I'm sure the top end machines couldn't cope with at a decent frame rate.
c) By porting an engine you don't implicitly get access to other games. You have to pay licence fees - which are not small...
d) We don't have 3d hardware. I will say again we need access to 3d hardware that has hardware T&L... ...David |
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Message #84284, posted by Cardinal at 00:50, 4/2/2002, in reply to message #84283 |
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<blockquote><font color="#667799">I think I'd prefer a port of the Unreal Tournament engine. I played some of Quake II again today and I was bored out of my mind after 5 minutes, it is so dull compared to the standard of the fps genre today. If the ut engine was ported then the RiscOS platform would have a great multiplayer game in the form of ut, and brilliant single player in the form of DeusEx.</blockquote></font>There are several problems with this : a) The Unreal Tournament source isn't available
b) The UT engine requires even more power than Q2, which I'm sure the top end machines couldn't cope with at a decent frame rate.
c) By porting an engine you don't implicitly get access to other games. You have to pay licence fees - which are not small...
d) We don't have 3d hardware. I will say again we need access to 3d hardware that has hardware T&L... ...David I know the source isn't available, it was just wishful thinking there... And the ut engine didn't need 3d hardware, it had the option to use software rendering. |
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Lee Johnston |
Message #84285, posted by johnstlr at 09:54, 4/2/2002, in reply to message #84284 |
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And the ut engine didn't need 3d hardware, it had the option to use software rendering. Yes, but I'll bet the minimum processor spec for this was higher than if you had hardware acceleration available. Face it, it isn't practical on current RISC OS hardware. Besides all this discussion about engines is irrelevant when talking about whether a game is good or not. The Quake 2 engine is a very capable engine, but it's not the fault of the engine if ID have just rehashed the same game over and over again. That doesn't mean that you can't write a good game with the engine though. |
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Message #84286, posted by andreww at 13:50, 4/2/2002, in reply to message #84285 |
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Nor is F16 apparently. Just need that extra bit of power :-( |
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #84287, posted by Phlamethrower at 18:36, 6/2/2002, in reply to message #84286 |
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*Wishes MD would invent a time machine so they can send us high-power RO machines from the future* |
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